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E-publishing Credits, Help or Hinderance?

The Diva Forum has been tossing this question around. Melissa Blue was wondering at what point do e-publishing credits help your chances of getting an editor/agent? Or is it a hinderance to have those e-publishing credits?

A Diva is never shy with her opinion, so there were lots of great answers ::

There’s no hindrance to any publishing credit: e-books, articles, non-fiction writing-anything. Most agents and editors will look at your e-pubbing history as meaning that you can complete a story and have some at least basic experience with the editing process and with promotions. Pubbing with NY is very different, but e-pubbing first was definitely helpful to me as a writer. - Eden Bradley, published with Bantam, Berkley, Phaze

If you cross genres it hinders I have found. When I first started querying agents with my YA MS I put in my epubbing credits. A LOT of R’s, it was only when I excluded it that I started getting partial and full requests. I have a feeling credits as an erotica author are not a step up for getting a YA agent! — Elaina Huntley, published with Liquid Silver, Phaze

I have noticed several authors who had published with Big Fish E-Publishers like Ellora’s Cave and Samhain moving to publishing in NY and doing well so far. Anya Bast and Shiloh Walker are good examples. Our own Tawny Taylor published with epubs and now has a NY published book. Crystal also writes for epubs and for Kensington - Vivienne Westlake

Having pubbed credits of any kind is a double edged sword. It shows prospective editors/agents that you can produce and have understand the editing process. You’re not a newbie. And, depending on how many titles you have out, you’re a serious career writer. All good stuff.

But, when you have previous pubbed experience, prospective agents/editors will almost always look at your sales numbers. You might have an awesome book that you’re trying to sell them, but if you previous numbers are low, they’re going to be hesitant to pick it up. Those numbers carry weight. It’s not a death sentence, but it does factor in.

Having said that, I think most agents/editors are familiar with e-publishing’s potential for much lower numbers. I certainly wouldn’t stop e-publishing for fear of low numbers, but be aware that your publishing record will follow you wherever you go. — Gemma Halliday, published with Dorchester

It depends on who you e-publish with. Not just the size of the publisher, but their level of professionalism. If you’re looking for experience, you want the experiences to be good. With the better e-pubs, it’s just as hard as NY to get a contract, which is why you see authors frpm there doing both.

Agents will ask right out why you chose e-pub for a particular title. You have to be able to answer…and saying you weren’t ready for NY isn’t the right one. They’ll advise you not to put your name on anything you wouldn’t be proud of in ten years.

For me, e-pub has been about length and topic. Short stories are hard to place; e-pubs have given them a home and some status. With short novels there is only one massive publishing umbrella considering them traditionally. And I also wrote a book about golf that isn’t about golf. It’s about using the tiny golf skirts to catch attention…and sports themes are a hard sell to NY, even when the sport is used for comedy. Who knew? — Jenna Bayley-Burke, published with Mills & Boon, Samhain

I had my agent pull something from a NY editor where it was under serious consideration…and she told me to go ahead and accept the offer from an epub since the NY publisher was taking too long. I thought that was interesting… But it does show that my agent takes epublishing seriously, as I believe she should.

Editors from HQN, NAL, and Grand Central asked about my epublishing experience. Also, my NY houses are using review quotes from my epublished books on my back cover! — Dawn Halliday, published with Samhain, NAL, Grand Central

The thing is, e-publishing and NY publishing are totally different animals, with different sales models. People forget that, but it’s a really important thing to remember. Yes, it’s about writing books, but NY is very slow on the e-pub bandwagon (and e-royalties from NY reflect this). My point is just that I think it’s good to keep in mind that e-pub houses and NY houses operate very differently, and to a lot of old-school NY editors/agents, it really doesn’t matter how many e-pubbed books you have out there, they still won’t count it as being published. — Lillian Fiesty, published with Ellora’s Cave, SPICE, Grand Central

I wasn’t asked about my e-publishing history by Kensington before they bought me, although it was one of my e-pubbed books that my agent read and then offered to represent me-so that was an advantage to have. I’m not sure if it does any good or not, to be totally honest, although I also know K did go and look at my website and took quotes from my e-book reviews to use for the cover. Personally, what e-pub gave me was an understanding of the publishing process, an opportunity to try all kinds of stuff and the ability to define my voice-all things that I think helped me sell to NY later. That’s why I still write for both. - Kate Pearce, published with Kensington, Virgin, Ellora’s Cave

Author of the Month SHAYLA BLACK!

Check out this month’s AUTHOR OF THE MONTH and all you have to do is register for FREE on ROMANCE DIVAS if you want to participate.

September 24 -26

“Ask me anything” Q&A

Get all your questions answered in this 3-day workshop. Here’s your chance to ask Shayla Black/Shelley Bradley, an author who has written under two pen names and over 20+ books, just about anything on the business. She has extensive knowledge and experience with writing, agents, publishers…Here’s your chance to ask those candid questions!

Tempt Me With Darkness

ABOUT SHAYLA…
www.shaylablack.com

You know what they say about curiosity and the cat…but if you still want to know, read below.

Shayla Black (aka Shelley Bradley) is the author of 20+ sizzling contemporary, erotic, paranormal, and historical romances for multiple print and electronic publishers. She lives in Texas with her husband, munchkin, and one very spoiled cat. In her “free” time, she enjoys reality TV, reading and listening to an eclectic blend of music.

Shayla has won or placed in over a dozen writing contests, including Passionate Ink’s Passionate Plume, Colorado Romance Writers Award of Excellence, and the National Reader’s Choice Awards. Romantic Times has awarded her Top Picks, a KISS Hero Award and a nomination for Best Erotic Romance of 2007. Her next release, TEMPT ME WITH DARKNESS, a paranormal/urban fantasy romance with Pocket, will be the first of the Doomsday Brethren series, available August 26.

A writing risk-taker, Shayla enjoys tackling writing challenges with every book.

Kick A$$ Workshop at Romance Divas!

Kick A$$ Characters By Authors Who Know How To Kick A$$

September 12-13 at Romance Divas

Want to know how to write authentic action, suspense, law enforcement, and military romance? Ask authors who know firsthand! Romance Divas is hosting a 2-day workshop with some of the hottest names in the genre. It will take place at the Romance Divas Forum. All are welcome. To get access to the forum you will need to register by entering the site and clicking on Forum.

Bob Mayer
Lindsay McKenna
Barry Eisler
Lori Avocato

Maggie Price
Linnea Sinclair
Larissa Ione

Merline Lovelace

Forums having a bad day; Come Tweet

It happens to the best of us.  The forums are having a bad day.

Come tweet instead!

Some Divas that twitter :

@ember_case
@stormerider
@MelissaFrancis  (the Original!)
@jaxcassidy
@Kristen_Painter
@LisaBradley
@nonny_morgan
@DaynaHart
@JenniferLeeland
@DanaBelfry
@crystaljordan
@mgbraden
@ngelajames
@ginablack
@lillianfeisty
@karenerickson
@DianaCastilleja
@streetmouse
@angeleque
@abigailmckenley

(If you’re a Twittering Diva, leave a comment!)

(NGTCC) Not Going To Conference Conference

The Romance Divas annual Not Going to Conference Conference will make you feel a bit less deprived! Amazing workshops, a star-studded guest list and awesome giveaways, all on the Diva forum! Don’t miss it!

Coordinated by Seeley deBorn!

Here’s a bit of a schedule update for the Q&As and Workshops…

Wednesday, July 30

Paula Guran, Editor, Juno Books
Q&A on Creating Kick a** Heroines

Laurie Rauch, Editor, Samhain Publishing
Workshop on What Happens After the Contract (aka Editors are People Too!)*

Thursday July 31

Joyce Hart, Hartline Literary
Q&A on Inspirational Romance Stories and the Inspy Market

Sandra Schwab, Historical Romance Author
Workshop on Historical Accuracy and Anachronisms

Friday, August 1

Yolanda Sfetsos, Author of Guarded by Stone
Q&A on Paranormal and Urban Fantasy World Building

Katie MacIver, KatieDidDesign
Workshop on Website Design and Color Selection

Saturday, August 2

Joey W. Hill, Erotica Author
Workshop on Plotting Erotica and Erotic Romance

Rhonda Stapleton, Editor and Author
Workshop on Style and Voice

2008 Romance Divas Not Going to Conference Conference

Excited yet?

How about if I list some door prizes?

  • What Gwen said” mug donated by Gwen Hayes
  • 3-chapter critique of a YA by Simon Pulse author Rhonda Stapleton
  • 3-chapter critique of a YA, chick lit, or rom com by Golden Heart Finalist Amanda Brice
  • An ebook of your choice from Nell Dixon’s backlist
  • An ebook of either Second Sight (paranormal romance) or Dragons’ Choice (fantasy romance - dragon-shifters) from Debbie Mumford
  • Ten dollar Amazon gift certificate from Jodi Henley
  • Lush stuff from Seeley deBorne
  • e-book copy of Chasing Shadows from Erin Richards
  • Paperback copy of Iron Horse Rider OR Smiling Eyes from Adelle Laudan
  • Book thongs from Angeleque Ford
  • 3 chapter critique from Sela Carsen
  • winner’s choice of ebook copy of “Not Quite Dead” or “Heart of the Sea” by Sela Carson
  • e-book copy of HEATWAVE by Eden Bradley
  • e-book copy of BREAKING SKYE by Eden Bradley
  • a box of goodies, trade and paperbacks, bath products candles, etc… All for a fun and relaxing home spa day treat. courtesy of The Midnight Moon Cafe
  • 1 download each of Natasha Moore’s Samhain books, The Ride of Her LIfe and The Passion-Minded Professor
  • a copy of “Painted Soul” by Mary Quast
  • e-book copy of HER CINDERELLA COMPLEX by Jenna Bayley-Burke - Samhain
  • e-book copy of PAR FOR THE COURSE by Jenna Bayley-Burke - Samhain
  • e-book copy of FOUND by Jenna Bayley-Burke - Wild Rose Press
  • e-book copy of NIGHT OF INSPIRATION by Jenna Allen - Phaze
  • e-book copy of ON AGAIN by Jenna Allen - Phaze
  • $10 gc to Amazon from Kendal Corbitt
  • ebook Vampire Oracle: Harmony by MG Braden
  • ebook ARC, Art of Sensuality by Jax Cassidy

Plus a lovely bar of wonderful Chagrin Valley hand made soap, Caramel Pralines jar candle, handmade jewelry, Tarot readings, a Lush box for European Divas/Dudes, a $10 fictionwise gc and much more!

Come chat with Gena Showalter in the Knight Agency chatroom!

The super-fabulous and super-talented Gena Showalter is chatting live at the Knight Agency chat room Tuesday the 20th at 8pm EST.

Gena is currently celebrating 3 weeks on the NYT top 15 list for her recent release THE DARKEST NIGHT, the first in the much anticipated LORDS OF THE UNDERWORLD series. Gena will be chatting about her current block-buster release and gossiping about the writing life in general. Perhaps if we’re lucky she will even provide a few teasers for the second title in the series, THE DARKEST KISS (available everywhere next week!), and who knows, maybe a few give-aways will be in store! (hint, hint, hint!) For anyone that hasn’t previously chatted with Ms. Showalter, I can guarantee this is an event you don’t want to miss. Not only is she an absolute doll with tons of advice on the business, but she is an absolute riot and this chat is sure to have lots of laugh out loud moments.

We can’t wait to see everyone there! If you aren’t yet familiar with this new series be sure to check out Gena’s new Lords Of the Underworld website. Here you can find out all about the series and its’ sexy tortured heroes, there are even excerpts available for each of the yet unreleased titles!

WHO: GENA SHOWALTER
WHAT: CHATTING LIVE!
WHEN: 8pm EST, Tuesday May 20, 2008
WHERE: TKA CHATROOM

To Enter the chat room: Follow this link TKA CHATROOM, enter a screen name and simply select “login.”

*Rules of Play: To keep things organized, the chats are all moderated. The moderator will begin by posting the following rules of play: when you have a question, simply type a “?” and the moderator will keep a list and call on you when it is your turn.

*Chat tips:When waiting on your turn, type your question in Word or another application so when it is your turn you only have to copy and paste. (Keeps the chat running smoothly) Click on any screen name in the list to open a Private Message conversation (a lot like AIM).

See you there!

Welcome Guest Blogger, Tawny Taylor!


DARK MASTER is officially released today. At last! You can buy your copy from online retailers (Amazon, Barnes and Noble) or at your favorite brick and mortar store today!

SURRENDERING COMPLETELY ALWAYS LEADS TO…

Completely broke, Regan Roslund is stuck selling bondage gear to a kinky clientele in order to pay her bills. She has no interest in her salacious merchandise until she feels a leather choker tight against her neck–and gets a glimpse of the muscular, model-gorgeous man who holds her captive. Suddenly, temptation ignites…

THE MOST INTENSE PLEASURE…

Newly crowned king of the undead, Shadow Sorenson knows he can protect himself by taking a wife. He hopes Regan, with her new-found curiosity, will be unable to resist obeying even his most deviant demand. But Shadow would prefer she surrender willingly. For thirty nights, he’ll show Regan what it’s like to lose control as he explores every inch of her naked flesh, leaving her hungry for release–and moaning in anticipation of an ecstasy she never knew existed…

Warning! This is a REALLY HOT book (Sexually Explicit)

“A thoroughly entertaining tale by a talented new voice.” Kate Douglas

Read a HOT excerpt at: www.tawnytaylor.com/darkmaster.html

Tawny
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DARK MASTER
A penniless bondage shop owner finds herself wed to a vampire king against her will. She wants to leave. He’s determined to convince her to stay… and in this game of seduction, he’s not going to play fair.
Wicked-Hot Erotic Fiction

Two Releases, One Day

Psyche, by Aislinn Kerry
Available April 22nd from Loose ID 

After months of text messaging, Psyche has fallen in love with a man she’s never even met, so when she finally gets the chance to see him face-to-face, she leaps at it. However, their meeting doesn’t turn out quite the way she expected. E hides in the dark and refuses to let her turn on the lights. Psyche’s startled at first, but willing to overlook a few idiosyncrasies while they get to know each other in person. Their relationship flourishes–until the night Psyche’s curiosity gets the better of her.

Light reveals that E is Eros, the Greek god of love and desire, and he is furious that she broke her word. She begs for forgiveness, but he won’t give it. In breaking her word, she broke his trust. She must seek help from a goddess and brave the dangers of the underworld in order to prove herself and win back the man she loves.

Read an excerpt!

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All that Glitters, by Aislinn Kerry
Availale April 22nd from Samhain Publishing

Kynan Pritchard has come to Paris to start a new life, one free from the gruesome nightmares–and the accusations of insanity–that have plagued him from childhood. He’s used to a hard-luck existence, but when a stranger comes to his aid, he thinks maybe that luck is changing. Aneirin is strong and brave, everything that Kynan wants to be. And Kynan falls for him. Hard.

But Kynan’s nightmares are about to become reality, and not even Aneirin can protect him from the monster who’s stalked him across the continent. The gwrach-y-rhibyn threatens everything–Kynan’s life, his sanity, even his love for Aneirin.

To defeat her, Kynan will have to risk becoming the very creature he hates.

Read an excerpt!

April Author of the Month

Join this month’s Author of the Month: JAX CASSIDY & Special Guest: SIMONE HARLOW

The Lotus Blossom Chronicles

WORKSHOP DATE: APRIL 27, 2008

What do you think of when you hear the words Multi-Ethnic? This has always been a quiet sector of romance that few understand and many are unaware of. Multi-Ethnic embodies more than just the lifestyle, culture, and stereotypes, and has become increasingly visible and more accepted within the last decade.

This workshop focuses on understanding and breaking into a market that most people are afraid to approach, but may be interested in learning more about. From authors such as L.A. Banks, Kayla Perrin, Sunny Chen, Brenda Jackson, to Caridad Pineiro, these women have proven that there is a demand for literature that focuses on the exotic.

Tara’s Tryst

Things aren’t always as they seem.
Convinced she was the ugly duckling in a gaggle of swans, Pyper discovers that her childhood crush has had some fantasies of his own.
Amidst the threat of losing everything she holds dear she learns that sometimes a crush can become a reality.

Book covers

Secrets of Summer
by Tara S Nichols
It has been years since Pyper has seen any sign of Liam Patterson so she is surprised when he reappears outside his old stomping grounds. More surprising is when he addresses her by her name. By the looks of Liam very little had changed about the beach loving playboy. He was just as handsome and just as flirtatious, although it never was her he had been flirting with, until now. As their secrets unravel both summer residents are faced with the thought of never returning to Victoria Beach, the place where their fantasies began.
Available April 18th from Cobblestone-press!